80. Tough Love: When God Says What We Need to Hear

Ever been called out for doing something naughty? Yeah, me too! This episode dives right into that awkward moment when someone has to give you the serious talk about your mischief. But here's the kicker: when someone cares enough to point out our mistakes, it's usually because they truly want the best for us. We’re chatting about how God, in His infinite wisdom, approaches the Israelites with some tough love, reminding them of their history and how they’ve strayed from His guidance. It’s not all sunshine and rainbows, but what we learn here is that even when we mess up, God’s love and forgiveness are right there waiting for us. So, grab your headphones and get comfy as we explore 1 Samuel 12.
00:00 - Untitled
00:22 - Untitled
00:29 - Understanding Consequences
03:27 - A Call for Accountability
07:23 - The Faithfulness of Samuel and Israel's History
10:09 - The Consequences of Rejecting God
13:50 - The Consequences of Rejection
G' day and welcome to Stories of a Faithful God for Kids.
Speaker ADave here.
Speaker AHave you ever been told off for doing the wrong thing?
Speaker AI don't mean those times someone got angry with you and you were completely innocent.
Speaker AI mean, when you did something naughty, someone found out about it and you had to have a very serious conversation with them.
Speaker AIt isn't very comfortable, is it?
Speaker AMaybe you'd hoped you'd got away with it.
Speaker AMaybe you hadn't even noticed that what you'd done was wrong.
Speaker AAnd listening to someone tell you about it is about as fun as sitting on a sharp nail.
Speaker AActually, sometimes you might even prefer to sit on a sharp nail if it meant you didn't have to have that conversation.
Speaker AStrange as it seems, when we get told off, it's usually because the person doing the telling actually cares for us.
Speaker AThey really want what's best for us.
Speaker AThey want us to understand what we did wrong and help us to do better.
Speaker AIt doesn't mean they always do it in the best way.
Speaker AAs a dad, I know I've told my kids off in really angry ways that weren't very kind.
Speaker AHey you.
Speaker AYou forgot to replace the toilet roll again.
Speaker AAs a punishment, you can't watch television or see any friends for 350 years and then you have to scrub the toilet with a toothpick.
Speaker AThat might have been an overreaction.
Speaker AAnd on behalf of all grown ups out there who have ever overreacted, please forgive us.
Speaker AIt was wrong and we shouldn't have done it.
Speaker AGod, though, never overreacts.
Speaker AEvery feeling he feels is right, everything he does is right.
Speaker AEvery word he says is right.
Speaker AWhat's more, he says and does those things out of love and kindness.
Speaker ASo whenever he tells people they've done the wrong thing, he's doing it out of love.
Speaker AIn today's story, there's something that God wants to tell the Israelites.
Speaker AIt isn't going to be comfortable, it isn't going to be fun.
Speaker ABut God's telling them out of kindness and love.
Speaker ASo get ready for our next episode of stories of a Faithful God for Kids.
Speaker AAt the end of our last episode, everything seemed brilliant.
Speaker AThe enemy army had been defeated and chased away.
Speaker AAll the Israelites accepted Saul as king and they gave thanks to God.
Speaker AEverything seemed great unless you remember how they've treated God along the way.
Speaker ANow God's like, whoa there, we're not just going to skip over all that massive sin you just did.
Speaker AWe're not going to pretend like everything's fine.
Speaker AHe knows that if he does that if he ignores what they've done wrong, they'll just keep doing it.
Speaker ASo while they're partying and celebrating the victory, Samuel calls them all together and has a little chat.
Speaker AHe reminds them how they asked him to make someone king and now he's done it before.
Speaker AHe tells them how bad it was for them to ask for a king.
Speaker AHe asks them a different question.
Speaker AHe asks if they have anything to accuse him of.
Speaker AIs there anything he's done wrong they want to talk about?
Speaker AHe says in 1 Samuel 12, 1, I have done everything you wanted me to do.
Speaker AI have put a king over you.
Speaker ANow you have a king to lead you.
Speaker AI am old and grey and my sons are here with you.
Speaker AI have been your leader since I was young.
Speaker AHere I am.
Speaker AIf I have done anything wrong, you must testify against me.
Speaker ADo this before the Lord and his appointed king.
Speaker ADid I steal anyone's ox or donkey?
Speaker ADid I hurt or cheat anyone?
Speaker ADid I ever secretly take money to pretend not to see something wrong?
Speaker AIf I did any of these things, I will make it right.
Speaker AThose are really good questions to ask, especially since they're exactly the sort of things that the other leaders of Israel have done.
Speaker AUnfortunately, even Samuel's own sons have done those sort of things.
Speaker ASo what about Samuel?
Speaker AHas he been a really evil leader like that?
Speaker AThankfully, no.
Speaker AHe's been leading Israel from when he was young right up until now when he's an old man.
Speaker AIn all that time, people would have seen if he'd done things like that.
Speaker ABut after all these years, you know what they have to say in verse four?
Speaker AThey tell him, you have not cheated us, you have not hurt us.
Speaker AYou have not taken anything unfairly from anyone.
Speaker AThat is awesome.
Speaker AWhat a great leader.
Speaker AHe's exactly the sort of leader you'd want, right?
Speaker AAnd the reason he's been such a good leader is because he trusts God.
Speaker AHe serves God.
Speaker AHe wants to obey God.
Speaker AOf course, he isn't asking them these things so they can make him feel good about himself.
Speaker AHe's not trying to say, hey, everyone, look how cool I am.
Speaker ANo, he's actually reminding them that he's a leader who can be trusted.
Speaker AWhen he speaks, you should listen.
Speaker AHe's doing it because he's about to speak and they really need to listen.
Speaker AHe reminds them that what they've said is really important.
Speaker AGod is watching.
Speaker AThe king is watching.
Speaker ASamuel kind of gives them another chance to say, oh, we didn't really mean that.
Speaker AYou're that good.
Speaker ABut they don't back down in Verse five.
Speaker AHe tells them, the Lord is a witness to what you have said.
Speaker AHis appointed king is also a witness.
Speaker AToday they are both witnesses that you did not find anything wrong in me.
Speaker AHe is our witness.
Speaker AThey reply, okay, God's here.
Speaker AHe's heard them all just say that Samuel's a faithful leader, the sort of guy you have to listen to.
Speaker ASo now it's time to listen.
Speaker AAnd what he has to tell them is not easy to hear.
Speaker AHe reminds them of what's happened in Israel's history, how God's been so good to them, how he's looked after them, protected them, cared for them, saved them.
Speaker AHe reminds them of Israel's past sin, how even though God did keep saving them, the Israelites in the past kept turning away from him, rejecting him.
Speaker AHe says in verse eight, after Jacob entered Egypt, his descendants cried to the Lord for help.
Speaker ASo the Lord sent Moses and Aaron.
Speaker AThey took your ancestors out of Egypt and brought them to live in this place.
Speaker AHe was the commander of the army of Hazor.
Speaker AThe Lord let them become the slaves of the Philistines and the King of Moab.
Speaker AThey all fought against your ancestors.
Speaker AThen your ancestors cried to the Lord, they said, we have sinned.
Speaker AWe have left the Lord.
Speaker AWe served the Baals and the Ashtoreths, but now save us from our enemies, and we will serve you.
Speaker AThe Lord sent Gideon, who is also called Jerubbaal, and he sent Barak, Jephthah and Samuel.
Speaker AThen he saved you from your enemies around you, and you lived in safety.
Speaker AIt's amazing, isn't it, just how many times God saved them.
Speaker ADid you hear the pattern?
Speaker AThey were in trouble in Egypt, but God saved them.
Speaker AThen they got in trouble again because they turned away from God.
Speaker AThey forgot God and worshiped other gods.
Speaker ASo God let them see what it's like without him, what it's like to live without his protection.
Speaker AHe let the enemies attack, the people asked for forgiveness.
Speaker AHe saved them.
Speaker AThen they forgot him again.
Speaker AThey were attacked, they asked for forgiveness, and God saved them again.
Speaker AOver and over and over again.
Speaker AGod didn't say, enough's enough.
Speaker AI'm never going to save you again.
Speaker ANo, he kept loving and saving and caring.
Speaker ABy the way, you can read about all those stories that are mentioned there in the Bible books of Exodus, which we've talked about on this podcast, and the Book of Judges, which we haven't done yet.
Speaker AI'm sorry I didn't go in the right order.
Speaker AAnyway, you'd think that after all that time, after God saving them over and over and over again for 400 years, you'd think they'd learn the lesson.
Speaker AThe lesson's pretty simple.
Speaker AGod's the best king in the universe.
Speaker ANo one can look after you like he can.
Speaker AAs long as you stick with him, you're fine.
Speaker AIn fact, why would you possibly want anyone else?
Speaker AUp until recently, it seemed like the Israelites had learned that lesson.
Speaker AWhen the Philistines attacked, they turned to God.
Speaker AThey asked Samuel to pray to God for them.
Speaker AAnd God thundered against the Philistines and defeated them.
Speaker ASadly, though, when the latest enemy attacked them, Nahash and the Ammonites, who we heard about in the last episode, the Israelites didn't say to Samuel, pray to God.
Speaker AThey'd said something completely different.
Speaker AThey'd said, give us a king like all the other nations.
Speaker AWhat a disaster.
Speaker AOr it would have been if the king really was a king like all the other nations, a king who didn't think he needed God.
Speaker AThankfully, Saul had trusted that it was God who would give the victory.
Speaker AAnd that's exactly what happened.
Speaker ASo again, even though they've rejected their God, God's actually looked after them.
Speaker ASo Samuel says in verse 13, now, here is the king you chose.
Speaker AThe Lord has put him over you.
Speaker AYou must honour the Lord and serve him.
Speaker AYou must obey his commands.
Speaker ABoth you and the king ruling over you must follow the Lord your God.
Speaker AIf you do, it will be well with you.
Speaker ABut if you don't obey the Lord and if you fight against his commands, he will be against you.
Speaker AHe will do to you what he did to your ancestors.
Speaker ACan you hear the warning?
Speaker ADon't think, Israelites, that just because you have a human king, you don't need to listen to God anymore.
Speaker AGod is still the king.
Speaker AIn fact, even the human king has to listen to God.
Speaker AStick with God, things will go well.
Speaker AIf you fight against God, he will fight against you.
Speaker ATo show that God does something that no other king can do.
Speaker AThe time when all this is happening is the wheat harvest.
Speaker AThe time when they get the wheat in from the field.
Speaker AThese days, if something goes wrong with a harvest in one area, there's usually enough food around in other places that it means we don't starve.
Speaker AIn those days, though, that didn't happen so much.
Speaker ASo if anything goes wrong with their wheat crop, they are in serious trouble.
Speaker AThey might die.
Speaker ABut why do you think they have the wheat crop in the first place?
Speaker AIt's because God's made it grow.
Speaker AAll good things come from God.
Speaker AHe's given them this food.
Speaker AHe's given them this life.
Speaker ABut they've said they don't want God.
Speaker AThey want.
Speaker ASo I guess that means they shouldn't get all the good things that only he can give, right?
Speaker AThis is what Samuel says in verse 16.
Speaker AHe says to them, now stand still and see the great thing the Lord will do before your eyes.
Speaker AIt is now the time of the wheat harvest.
Speaker AI will pray to the Lord to send thunder and rain.
Speaker AThen you will know what an evil thing you did against the Lord when you asked for a king.
Speaker AThen Samuel prayed to the Lord.
Speaker AThat same day, the Lord sent thunder and rain and the people became very afraid of the Lord and Samuel.
Speaker AThey said to Samuel, pray to the Lord your God for us, your servants.
Speaker ADon't let us die.
Speaker AWe've added to all our sins.
Speaker AThe evil of asking for a king.
Speaker AThere it is again.
Speaker AGod's shown them what it means to reject him.
Speaker AAnd again they've asked for forgiveness.
Speaker ASurely this time God's going to say, no, enough's enough.
Speaker AYou didn't want me, now you can't have me.
Speaker AGod doesn't say that kindly.
Speaker ALovingly.
Speaker AHe does forgive them.
Speaker ABut he gets Samuel to remind them again of just how much they need him, how their whole life depends on him.
Speaker AIn verse 20 he says, don't be afraid.
Speaker AIt's true that you did wrong.
Speaker ABut don't turn away from the Lord.
Speaker AServe the Lord with all your heart.
Speaker AIdols are of no use, so don't worship them.
Speaker AThey can't help you or save you.
Speaker AThey're useless.
Speaker AFor his own sake, the Lord won't leave his people.
Speaker AInstead, he was pleased to make you his own people.
Speaker AI will surely not stop praying for you.
Speaker AIf I did, I would be sinning against the Lord.
Speaker AI will teach you what is good and right.
Speaker ABut you must honour the Lord.
Speaker AYou must always serve him with all your heart.
Speaker ARemember the wonderful things he did for you.
Speaker ABut if you are stubborn and do evil, God will sweep you and your king away.
Speaker AEven though they have been so evil.
Speaker AGod is not going to change who he is.
Speaker AHe's the God who loves to show kindness.
Speaker AHe wants the world to know that.
Speaker ASo once again, when they've repented, he forgives them.
Speaker AYou know, there are some things in the Bible that are kind of hard to hear.
Speaker ASome people don't like them being in the Bible.
Speaker ASome people even say that God's being really mean for putting them in the Bible.
Speaker ABut nothing could be further from the truth.
Speaker AGod tells us hard things sometimes because he loves us.
Speaker AHe cares for us.
Speaker AHe tells us what we need to hear so that we can do what's best.
Speaker AIn John 3:36, Jesus tells us what you get if you believe in Him.
Speaker ABut he also says, what you miss out on if you don't believe in him, it's life.
Speaker AJesus is the giver of life.
Speaker AIf you have Jesus, you have life.
Speaker AIf you don't, well, here's what John 3.
Speaker A36 says.
Speaker AIt says, he who believes in the Son has eternal life, but he who does not obey the Son will never have that life.
Speaker AGod's anger stays with him.
Speaker AAnd some people might say, ooo, I don't want to hear about God's anger.
Speaker ABut God doesn't tell us that because he wants to be angry with us or because he wants us to miss out on life.
Speaker AHe tells us that because he wants us to have life.
Speaker AHe wants us to have eternal life.
Speaker AHe's like a loving parent who says, don't swim in that waterhole over there where there are crocodiles that are going to eat you.
Speaker ACome and swim in this waterhole where you can have heaps of fun.
Speaker ASo let's make sure that we listen to God, that we hear his loving warnings.
Speaker ASticking with God is the best thing in the world.
Speaker AIgnoring him is the worst thing in the world.
Speaker ASo stick with the kind, loving God.
Speaker ABack in Israel, it's time to fight the Philistines.
Speaker AWill the people stick with God?
Speaker AWell, that's a story for next time.
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