82. Leaders: The Good, The Bad, and The Honey!

Ever wondered what makes a great leader? Well, today's story dives deep into the wild world of leadership with a twist that’ll have you shaking your head! We’re talking about King Saul and his not-so-great decisions that led to some seriously hungry soldiers—yikes! Picture this: a bunch of tired warriors in the heat of battle, surrounded by delicious honey, but they can’t eat a bite because of a silly promise Saul made. Spoiler alert: it doesn’t end well for him, but it gives us a chance to chat about the real King we can trust—King Jesus, who always knows what’s best for us. So grab some honey and tune in as we explore the ups and downs of leadership and the true meaning of being a good king! This story is taken from 1 Samuel 14.
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00:00 - Untitled
00:22 - Untitled
00:29 - Exploring Leadership
00:58 - The Role of Leadership and Kingship
07:00 - The King's Misjudgment
08:36 - Saul's Dilemma: The Silence of God
14:14 - The Transition to a New King
G', day everyone.
Speaker ADave here.
Speaker AWelcome to Stories of a Faithful God for Kids.
Speaker AWhat sort of leader do you like to have?
Speaker AHave you ever had a bad leader?
Speaker AHave you ever had a really good leader?
Speaker ASometimes on a sports team you might get a captain who you think, this is awesome.
Speaker AThey'll be so good at leading the team.
Speaker AOther times you might think, umm, this might not go so well.
Speaker APerhaps you've had a teacher who you think is super great.
Speaker APerhaps you've had a teacher who you didn't get on with so well.
Speaker AWhat about a leader who's in charge of your entire life?
Speaker AA king.
Speaker AWhat sort of things would you want in a king?
Speaker AA few episodes ago, we learned how Israel had asked for a king.
Speaker ALike all the other nations, they looked at what other countries had and said yes.
Speaker AYep, that's what we want.
Speaker AIn today's story, we get to see just how bad an idea that was.
Speaker AThankfully, it'll help us think about the best king in the whole universe.
Speaker AGet ready for our next episode of Stories of a Faithful God for Kids.
Speaker AAt the end of our last episode, the Israelites had the Philistines on the run.
Speaker ASaul's son Jonathan had started the battle trusting that God was looking after Israel.
Speaker AGod had thrown the Philistines into panic and they'd even started attacking each other.
Speaker ASaul and the other Israelites were late to the battle, but now they're chasing the Philistines as fast as they can.
Speaker AThe whole day there's fighting and chasing.
Speaker AAs the day goes on, even though they're winning, the Israelite soldiers are getting more and more miserable.
Speaker AThis is because Saul's made them all make a really silly promise.
Speaker AIn verse 24, he said to them, no one should eat food before evening and before I finish defeating my enemies.
Speaker AIf he does, he will be cursed.
Speaker AWhaaaat?
Speaker AFighting is really tough work.
Speaker AIt'd make him more hungry, not less hungry.
Speaker ABut did you hear who Saul really cared about?
Speaker AHimself.
Speaker AHe talks about his victory over his enemies.
Speaker AHe doesn't care about his soldiers.
Speaker AHe doesn't care about God.
Speaker AHe doesn't care about Israel.
Speaker AIt's all about him.
Speaker ABecause of this silly promise, none of the Israelite soldiers eat any food.
Speaker AAnd they become more and more and more tired.
Speaker AAt some stage in the day, the army has to move through a forest.
Speaker AOn the ground, in the forest, everywhere they look, there's honey.
Speaker ABees have actually made some honeycomb on the ground.
Speaker AWay back before God gave them this land, he'd described it as a land flowing with milk and honey.
Speaker ANow Here it is.
Speaker AThere's honey everywhere.
Speaker AIt's a sign of God's goodness and kindness to them.
Speaker AAnd, oh, it must look so tasty.
Speaker AThe soldiers mouths are watering, but none of them eat because of the silly promise that Saul made them make.
Speaker AJonathan doesn't know anything about that promise.
Speaker AHe'd been off actually fighting the enemy when Saul made the others say it.
Speaker AHe sees the honey and he's super excited.
Speaker AHe dips the end of his stick into the honeycomb and has just a tiny taste of the honey.
Speaker AThe soldiers around him are all pretty nervous.
Speaker AThey're like, ah, Jonathan, there's this promise that your dad made us all say.
Speaker AThat's why we're all so weak.
Speaker AJonathan's really angry when he hears about it.
Speaker AHe knows that his dad's been a really bad king.
Speaker AHe says in verse 29, my father has made trouble for the land.
Speaker ASee how much better I feel after just tasting a little of this honey.
Speaker AIt would have been much better for the men to eat the food they took from their enemies today.
Speaker AWe could have killed many more Philistines.
Speaker AHe understands that now lots of Philistines are going to get away.
Speaker AIt'll be easier for them to get another army together and come back and attack Israel.
Speaker ASaul hasn't been the saviour of Israel.
Speaker AHe's actually made saving Israel harder.
Speaker AThe Israelites chased the Philistines all the way from Michmash to Aijalon, and by then they're exhausted and they're starving.
Speaker AThey're so hungry, they start doing something God told them not to do.
Speaker AThey've captured lots of sheep and cattle from the Philistines, which is fine.
Speaker AGod had made a law, though, that they should never eat meat that still has blood in it.
Speaker AWhen they kill animals, they need to let the blood drain out before they cook and eat them.
Speaker ABut now, because of this silly promise, Saul made them say they're so hungry, they just kill the animals and start eating them raw there on the ground.
Speaker AEw.
Speaker AI know, gross, right?
Speaker AIn verse 33, someone says to Saul, look, the men are sinning against the Lord.
Speaker AThey're eating meat that still has blood in it.
Speaker ASaul gets really angry.
Speaker AHow dare they sin like this?
Speaker AHe sets up a stone where they can kill the animals and drain the blood so they can eat properly.
Speaker AThat sounds like he's really concerned about God and sin.
Speaker ABut he doesn't say, hey, guys, I'm really sorry I made you so hungry.
Speaker AI'm really sorry I tempted you to sin.
Speaker AHe can see what everyone else is doing wrong.
Speaker AHe just can't see what he's done wrong.
Speaker AAlso, he wants to force God to be on his side, and what the people are doing might stop that.
Speaker AHe doesn't have the same sort of trust in God that Jonathan has.
Speaker AAs the exhausted soldiers are finally sorting out a proper meal, Saul decides he wants to keep the battle going.
Speaker AHe says to his men in verse 36, let's go after the Philistines tonight.
Speaker ALet's take what they own.
Speaker AWe won't let any of them live.
Speaker ACan you imagine how the exhausted soldiers are feeling as he says this?
Speaker AThey've been running and fighting all day without food, and now he wants them to go all night as well.
Speaker ABut he's the king.
Speaker ASo they reply, do whatever you think is best.
Speaker AThen the priest speaks up.
Speaker AHe doesn't say, do what you think is best.
Speaker AInstead, he says, let's ask God.
Speaker AOh, what a good idea.
Speaker AIt's such a shame that Saul didn't think of that.
Speaker ABut as we've seen, he thinks about himself much more than he thinks about God.
Speaker ANow in verse 37, Saul asks God, should I chase the Philistines, or will you let us defeat them?
Speaker AAnd you know what God says?
Speaker AHe says, nothing.
Speaker ANo answer, no reply.
Speaker ANot a word.
Speaker AThat's a little embarrassing for God's special king.
Speaker AWhy won't he answer?
Speaker AHe could say yes.
Speaker AHe could say no.
Speaker AInstead, he said, nothing.
Speaker ASaul figures someone must have sinned to make God not want to answer.
Speaker AAnd so he decides to work it out.
Speaker ASo he says to the leaders of his army in verse 38, come here.
Speaker ALet's find what sin has been done today.
Speaker AAs surely as the Lord lives.
Speaker AEven if my son Jonathan did the sin, he must die.
Speaker AJust like God didn't give an answer, none of the leaders of the army answer him either.
Speaker AThen he says to all the Israelites, you stand on this side.
Speaker AI and my son Jonathan will stand on the other side.
Speaker AJust like when Saul was shown to be king, they're going to cast lots to see which side the problem is.
Speaker AIs it in all the Israelites, or is it in Saul and Jonathan?
Speaker AAgain, the army reply with that same weary answer, the answer that recognizes that Saul's in charge without saying whether they think he's doing a good or a bad thing.
Speaker AThey say, do whatever you think is best.
Speaker ASaul prays to God, give me the right answer.
Speaker AThe lots are thrown, and the answer comes up.
Speaker AThe problem is in Saul and Jonathan.
Speaker AHuh?
Speaker ANow, that threat Saul made, the threat to kill whoever is responsible, even if it's his own son, Jonathan.
Speaker AThat threat seems very real.
Speaker AThey cast the lots again to find out if the problem is in Saul or Jonathan.
Speaker AAnd Jonathan is chosen.
Speaker AWhat monstrous crime could Jonathan have done?
Speaker AWhat horrible evil has he been taking part in?
Speaker AWhat terrible sin has he committed?
Speaker ASaul asks him what he's done and he replies in verse 43, I only tasted a little honey from the end of my stick and must I die now?
Speaker AOh, no.
Speaker AHe tasted a tiny little bit of honey on the end of his stick.
Speaker AWhat a horrible, terrible, dastardly crime.
Speaker ASurely that deserves death.
Speaker AWell, actually.
Speaker AOf course it doesn't.
Speaker AJonathan didn't make the promise and he was doing a really wise thing.
Speaker AIt was nuts not to eat anything during the day.
Speaker ABut Saul, he's made a promise and he doesn't want to back down now.
Speaker AHe says to his own son, Jonathan, if you don't die, may God punish me terribly.
Speaker AAnd now, finally, the army speaks up.
Speaker AThey accepted Saul's decision when he said they should keep fighting through the night.
Speaker AThey didn't say anything when he was threatening to put them to death.
Speaker ABut now his foolishness has gone too far.
Speaker AJonathan isn't a criminal.
Speaker AHe's the one man who trusted God, who attacked the Philistines, who.
Speaker AWho God had worked with to win the battle.
Speaker AHow can Saul be so evil as to say he should be killed for eating a little bit of honey?
Speaker AIn verse 45, they all cry out, must Jonathan die?
Speaker ANever.
Speaker AHe's responsible for saving Israel today.
Speaker AAs surely as the Lord lives, not even a hair of his head will fall to the ground.
Speaker AToday, Jonathan fought against the Philistines with God's help, and thankfully they won the argument.
Speaker AJonathan is not killed.
Speaker ASaul stops chasing the Philistines, and because of all his bad decisions, lots of them get away and escape back to their homeland.
Speaker AWho did King Saul care about?
Speaker AIt wasn't the Israelites who he was king of.
Speaker AIt wasn't his own son who was such a good saviour of Israel.
Speaker AIt wasn't even God who'd chosen him to lead his people.
Speaker AIn the end, Saul cared about himself.
Speaker AHe was a king, just like all the other kings in all the other nations.
Speaker AWonderfully, God had a much better plan in mind.
Speaker AHe had plans for a much better king, the best king in all the universe, King Jesus.
Speaker AJesus never had to be reminded to ask God the Father for anything.
Speaker AHe prayed all the time.
Speaker AHe never had to be stopped from putting innocent people to death.
Speaker AInstead, he saved guilty people from from death.
Speaker AAnd he never used other people to care for himself.
Speaker AInstead, he gave up his own life.
Speaker AHe took the punishment for our sin.
Speaker AHe suffered so we wouldn't have to Jesus is the good, perfect, wonderful King.
Speaker AIt isn't hard to follow Jesus.
Speaker AWe don't have to say, do whatever you think is best.
Speaker AWhat Jesus thinks is best is always best.
Speaker ASo it's a joy to say to Jesus, do whatever you think is best.
Speaker AAnd so no matter where you are in the world, no matter how old you are, I hope you trust Jesus as your good, perfect, wonderful king.
Speaker ABack in Israel, God's already planning for a new king.
Speaker ANot a king like all the other nations, but a king who is the sort of king God wants.
Speaker ABut that's a story for next time.
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