83. A Royal Mess: The King Who Didn't Listen to God (1 Samuel 15)

Get ready to dive into a wild story where obedience takes center stage! We’re chatting about King Saul and the consequences of not listening to God—yep, it’s a big deal! Picture a firefighter thinking they’re invincible and skipping out on safety gear; that’s Saul ignoring God’s commands. He was given a mission to wipe out the Amalekites, but instead, he kept the king alive and pocketed the best sheep for himself. Spoiler alert: God wasn’t happy about that! Join us as we explore the importance of listening to God, the pitfalls of making excuses, and how this ties into the bigger picture of God’s plan for His people. Buckle up, it’s gonna be a fun ride!
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G', day, Dave.
Speaker AHere.
Speaker AWelcome to Stories of a Faithful God for Kids.
Speaker AImagine a firefighter doesn't listen to all his safety training.
Speaker AImagine if he or she thinks to themselves, I'm pretty tough.
Speaker AI don't need a special coat or clothes.
Speaker AI don't need a hose.
Speaker AI don't need other firefighters.
Speaker AI'll just go into a burning building and blow the fire out.
Speaker ADo you think that would be good?
Speaker AAre they going to be a good firefighter?
Speaker AOr what about if you go to the zoo and you see some big signs at the lion cage?
Speaker AIt says, danger warning, Risk of death.
Speaker ADo not cross the fence for any reason.
Speaker AWhat if you ignore that message?
Speaker AWhat if you think, oh, they're just big cats, I'd like to go and give them a path and you climb over the fence.
Speaker AI'm thinking that if you do that, the lions are going to have a very tasty meal.
Speaker AWell, what about if the king of God's kingdom doesn't listen to God?
Speaker AIf he says, I've got a better idea than God, I'm the king, I'll do it my way.
Speaker AWhat would that mean?
Speaker AIs that going to turn out really well or really badly?
Speaker AWell, we're about to find out.
Speaker AGet ready for our next episode of Stories of a Faithful God for Kids.
Speaker AAt the end of our last episode, the Philistines had been driven away.
Speaker AGod had given Israel victory because King Saul was so selfish and silly.
Speaker AThough lots of Philistines got away, he actually made the Israelite victory become not as good as it could have been.
Speaker ANow God has a job for King Saul and the Israelites.
Speaker AOne of the jobs of God's chosen king is to punish people for their evil.
Speaker AAnd God's going to send Saul to punish the Amalekites?
Speaker AThat's right, the Amalekites.
Speaker AWay back when the Israelites had been leaving Egypt, the people who were the weakest and the most tied, old people, children, sick people, they'd fallen to the back.
Speaker AThe Amalekites thought that was great.
Speaker AThey attacked and killed those people and stole their things.
Speaker AGod had said that when the Israelites were settled into their new land, they should punish the Amalekites.
Speaker ANow it's that time.
Speaker AThey're not going to steal things from the Amalekites.
Speaker AGod's really clear to Saul.
Speaker AHe and the army have to completely wipe them out, including their animals.
Speaker AThere shouldn't be any trace of the Amalekites left.
Speaker AThis is really massive.
Speaker AIt's a sign of just how bad sin is that It Deserves this.
Speaker AParents.
Speaker AIf you want to think more about this passage, I've got a section about it in the latest episode of the longer podcast, Stories of a Faithful God.
Speaker AWell, Saul gets his army together.
Speaker A210,000 men.
Speaker AThat's a huge army.
Speaker AAnd he starts the mission off very well.
Speaker AThere are some people called Kenites living with the Amalekites.
Speaker ASaul could just destroy them as well, but he doesn't.
Speaker AHe wants to be fair and good.
Speaker AIn 1 Samuel 15, 6, he says to the Kenites, go away.
Speaker ALeave the Amalekites so that I won't destroy you with them.
Speaker AYou showed kindness to the Israelites when they came out of Egypt.
Speaker AIt's great that Saul's not being unfair.
Speaker AHe could attack the Kenites, he could steal their things, but instead he's doing what's right.
Speaker AMaybe, just maybe, Saul's getting better at being the king of God's people.
Speaker AThankfully, the Kenites leave.
Speaker AThen Saul attacks the Amalekites and chases them all the way down to the edge of Egypt.
Speaker AThis is great.
Speaker ASaul's obeying God.
Speaker AHe's listening to God's word.
Speaker ABut then we read this in verse 8.
Speaker AHe took Agag, king of the Amalekites, alive, but he killed all of Agag's army with the sword.
Speaker ABut Saul and the army let Agag live.
Speaker AThey also let the best sheep, fat cattle and lambs live.
Speaker AThey let every good animal live.
Speaker AThey did not want to destroy them, but when they found an animal that was weak or useless, they killed it.
Speaker AOh, no.
Speaker ADo you see what's happened?
Speaker AThey've obeyed God for part of the job.
Speaker ABut whenever there were good things to take, healthy animals, expensive animals, they kept them for themselves.
Speaker AThey haven't cared about what's fair or what the Amalekites deserve.
Speaker AThey haven't cared about what God said.
Speaker AThey've only cared about making themselves rich.
Speaker AWorst of all, they've kept King Agag alive.
Speaker AOf all the Amalekites who deserve to be punished, he's the one who most deserves to be punished.
Speaker AHe's the one who's led them into all their evil.
Speaker ASadly, now Saul is leading the Israelites in their evil.
Speaker AHe's meant to listen to God's word and help Israel listen to God's word.
Speaker AInstead, he's letting the Israelites ignore what God said.
Speaker AThis is terrible.
Speaker AAnd God is so Sad.
Speaker AIn verse 11, he says to Samuel, saul has stopped following me, and I am sorry I made him king.
Speaker AHe has not obeyed my commands.
Speaker ASamuel's really sad as well.
Speaker AHe spends the whole night crying out to the Lord.
Speaker AIn the morning, he heads off to find Saul.
Speaker AHe doesn't find him straight away, but he does discover something quite disturbing.
Speaker ASome people tell him that Saul set up a monument in his own honour.
Speaker AThat's right.
Speaker AHe set up a monument to show everyone how great he is.
Speaker AIn the last chapter, even though Saul didn't do much to trust God, at least he set up an altar to the Lord.
Speaker AHe recognised that it was God who'd given the victory.
Speaker ANow not only has Saul not listened to God's word, he's forgotten that God gives the victory.
Speaker AInstead of telling everyone how great God is, he wants to tell everyone how great he is.
Speaker ASaul isn't getting better as a king, he's getting worse.
Speaker AHe's moving further and further away from God, which makes what he says when Samuel eventually finds him especially weird.
Speaker AIn verse 13, he happily cries out to Samuel, may the Lord bless you.
Speaker AI have obeyed the Lord's commands.
Speaker AUmm, really?
Speaker AReally, Saul, Is that really what you've done?
Speaker ASamuel replies in verse 14, then why do I hear cattle mooing and sheep bleating?
Speaker AIn other words, if Saul had really obeyed God, there wouldn't be any animal sounds.
Speaker ASaul kind of knows that, so he starts making excuses.
Speaker AFirst he blames it on the soldiers, even though he's actually in charge of the soldiers.
Speaker AThen he tries to make it sound like the soldiers just wanted to honour God, even though they've disobeyed Him.
Speaker AThen he tries to make it sound like that doesn't really matter anyway because they've gotten rid of everything else.
Speaker AListen to his words.
Speaker ASee how he's tried to twist and turn his way out of admitting that he's done anything wrong.
Speaker AIn verse 15, he says, the soldiers took them from the Amalekites.
Speaker AThey saved the best sheep and cattle to offer as sacrifices to the Lord your God.
Speaker ABut we destroyed all the other animals.
Speaker ASamuel's heard enough excuses.
Speaker AHe says, stop.
Speaker ALet me tell you what the Lord said to me last night.
Speaker AAnd Saul's like, umm, okay.
Speaker AIn verse 17, Samuel reminds him how it's his job to obey God's word, not to make things up or to change what God said.
Speaker ASamuel says, once you didn't think much of yourself, but now you have become the leader of the tribes of Israel.
Speaker AThe Lord appointed you to be king over Israel and he told you to do something.
Speaker AHe said, go and destroy those evil people.
Speaker AThe Amalekites.
Speaker AMake war on them until all of them are dead.
Speaker AWhy didn't you obey the Lord.
Speaker AWhy did you take the best things?
Speaker AWhy did you do what the Lord said was wrong?
Speaker ASaul sticks to his excuses.
Speaker AHe says that he has obeyed God, and then he makes excuses for all the ways that he hasn't obeyed God.
Speaker AHe says in verse 20, but I did obey the Lord.
Speaker AI did what the Lord told me to do.
Speaker AI destroyed all the Amalekites and I brought back Agag, their king.
Speaker AThe soldiers took the best sheep and cattle to sacrifice to the Lord.
Speaker AYour God.
Speaker AAt Gilgal.
Speaker AHave you ever tried to make a bad thing sound good by saying that you're doing it for God?
Speaker AWell, that's what Saul's doing here.
Speaker AHe's saying, it's fine that the soldiers have kept all these animals because really they're doing it for God.
Speaker ABut you can't use that as an excuse to disobey God.
Speaker AYou can't say, oh, I don't have to obey God because I really want to worship God.
Speaker AThat's nuts.
Speaker ASamuel's having none of it and neither is God.
Speaker ASamuel answers in verse 22.
Speaker AWhat pleases the Lord more?
Speaker ABurnt offerings and sacrifices or obedience?
Speaker AIt is better to obey God than to offer a sacrifice.
Speaker AIt's better to listen to God than to offer the fat of male sheep.
Speaker ARefusing to obey is as bad as the sin of sorcery.
Speaker ABeing stubborn is as bad as the sin of worshipping idols.
Speaker AYou have rejected the Lord's command.
Speaker AFor this reason, he now rejects you as king.
Speaker AThere it is.
Speaker ASaul's refused to listen to God, so God's refusing to have him as the king.
Speaker ASaul's rejected the word of God, so God's rejecting him.
Speaker ASaul's given up on God, so God is giving up on him.
Speaker AToo late.
Speaker ASaul agrees that he has done the wrong thing.
Speaker AThe words he says at this time are good.
Speaker AHe says in verse 24, I have sinned.
Speaker AI didn't obey the Lord's commands.
Speaker AI didn't do what you told me.
Speaker AI was afraid of the people and I did what they said.
Speaker ANow, I beg you, forgive my sin.
Speaker ACome back with me so I may worship the Lord.
Speaker AThose are good words, aren't they?
Speaker AAnd if he'd recognised his sin before and asked for forgiveness, maybe he wouldn't have to be punished.
Speaker ABut now it just seems like he's trying to trick God into liking him.
Speaker AHe also wants Samuel to come with him, because then it looks like God's still on his side.
Speaker AIf Samuel doesn't come, people might say, uh, Saul, why isn't God's prophet With you.
Speaker AHave you done something against God?
Speaker AIs he not speaking to you anymore?
Speaker AThat would be really embarrassing.
Speaker ASamuel says, I won't come back with you.
Speaker AYou refused the Lord's command and now he rejects you as king of Israel.
Speaker ANow Saul's desperate.
Speaker AHe reaches out to grab Samuel.
Speaker AHe doesn't want to let him get away.
Speaker AHe grabs Samuel's clothes, but the clothes tear as Samuel keeps walking.
Speaker AHe turns back to Saul and he says, the Lord has torn the kingdom of Israel from you today.
Speaker AHe has given it to one of your neighbours.
Speaker AHe has given it to one better than you.
Speaker AThe Lord is the eternal one of Israel.
Speaker AHe does not lie or change his mind.
Speaker AHe is not a man, so he does not change his mind as men do.
Speaker ASaul keeps begging Samuel to come back with him and honour him in front of the leaders of Israel.
Speaker AHe still doesn't get it.
Speaker AHe still wants honour for himself.
Speaker AReally.
Speaker AHe should be shamed in front of the leaders for not obeying God.
Speaker AAnd that is exactly what happens.
Speaker ASamuel eventually does go with him, but only to do what Saul should have done.
Speaker AHe gets them to bring Agag, King of the Amalekites over to him.
Speaker AAgag doesn't really know what's going to happen.
Speaker AWhat's going to happen is the justice of God, the fairness of God through Samuel.
Speaker AGod is going to do to Agag exactly what Agag has done to other people.
Speaker ASamuel says to agag in verse 33, you, sword caused mothers to be without their children.
Speaker ANow your mother without will have no children.
Speaker AAnd with that, he kills Agag.
Speaker ABy the way, we never have that job.
Speaker ASamuel was only doing it because God told him to.
Speaker AIt's something he only told his people and kings to do in the Old Testament.
Speaker AAnd then only sometimes.
Speaker ANow we have a better king than any of the kings in the Old Testament.
Speaker AA king who always listens to and obeys God's word.
Speaker AA king who is the perfect king.
Speaker AKing Jesus.
Speaker AWhen the devil realized that Jesus was the new king God had sent, do you know what he tried to get Jesus to do?
Speaker AHe tried to get Jesus to disobey God, to not believe God's word, to not listen to God.
Speaker ABut each time he tried, Jesus replied by telling him what God had said.
Speaker AHe refused to listen to the words of Satan and only listened to the word of God.
Speaker AJesus is the perfect king of God's people.
Speaker AAnd thankfully, God didn't send him to punish us.
Speaker AHe sent Jesus to save us.
Speaker ATo save everyone who trusts and serves him as king, to forgive everyone who trusts him.
Speaker AJesus will come again.
Speaker AAnd if people have rejected him, then he'll reject them and punish them then.
Speaker ABut for those who come into his kingdom, he's taken away our punishment, and it'll be awesome forever.
Speaker ABack in Israel, Samuel leaves Saul and for the rest of his life never sees him again.
Speaker ASaul's been rejected as king, but Samuel mentioned a new king, a better king, someone who God's chosen to do a better job.
Speaker AWho could that be?
Speaker AWell, that's a story for next time.
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